adrienne maree brown is the author of Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds and Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good. She is a writer, social justice facilitator, pleasure activist, healer and doula living in Detroit. She cohosts the podcast How to Survive the End of the World. 

In our conversation, adrienne talked about the power of vulnerability and truth-telling in intimate relationships and movement work; about the way mothers have always been on the forefront of social change by working for a better future for the kids in their care; and about the pleasure activism and witchery of Beyonce and Lizzo. adrienne also discussed how shifting cultural beliefs open the way to shape ourselves beyond gender; how recent protests in Puerto Rico reveal possibilities in making movement space one of joy, pleasure, and connection; and how the practice of radical honesty can help us protect the miracle of our lives.


adrienne maree brown is the author of Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds and Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good, and is the co-editor of Octavia’s Brood: Science Fiction from Social Justice Movements. She is a writer, social justice facilitator, pleasure activist, healer and doula living in Detroit. brown has been facilitating professionally for over fifteen years, and has worked with hundreds of organizations at all levels of scale including informal collectives, foundations, national networks and more. She is the cohost of the How to Survive the End of the World podcast.

Jillian Bessett: The voice in the intro and outro belong to songwriter Jillian Bessett. Jillian Bessett is a singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist whose evocative lyrics and welcoming stage presence have endeared her to audiences throughout the southwest music scene. Jillian is currently writing music and gigging with her new favorite instrument the Boss RC-505 Looping Station.

Mentioned in the Episode:



A Little Juju Podcast: “OK, So Beyonce is a Witch.”

Audre Lorde, “Uses of the Erotic”

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